11 thoughts on “YouTube Video – There is Nothing Intrinsically Wrong with Slavery

  1. Slavery is choicelessness; one cannot have a slavery that allows the master to choose whether or not to give orders or allows a slave to obey or disobey those orders. Choicelessness has never been the ideal human condition.

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    • Jamie,

      Based on your comment, it seems that you either did not read the essay or listen to it. Or perhaps you missed where your point is addressed. The fact is, there is nothing about slavery which would necessarily mean that a slave is less free than a “free” person. After all, a slave master could, in principle, give his slave only one command: “Do whatever you want to do.” In such a case, the slave is no less free than a free man, even though he is a slave. Furthermore, such a slave has as much choice as any free man does. So no, slavery, in principle, does not mean chiocelessness; it may in-practice, but that is a different issue (and it is also one that my essay addresses).

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      • And a master could command the slave do a litany of tasks each and every day – more than the slave has the time / ability to complete. You’re speaking of a hypothetical dreamworld where people just won’t act that way. History has shown us what we do with slavery: abuse. How can there be nothing wrong with it if it always goes wrong?

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      • Jamie,

        Learn the difference between an in-principle point and an in-practice one. The point is that there is nothing intrinsically, and thus in-principle, wrong with slavery, even if, in-practice, it would be abused. So make sure you grasp the difference between the in-principle argument and the in-practice one.

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      • It just sounds to me that if anything is acceptable in principle, then practice is sure to follow. Fortunately for us, hundreds of free countries got together and agreed that slavery was immoral and unacceptable – anyone who is discovered to have had slaves or made people into slaves is punished harshly for breaking the law of the land.

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      • No, this is not the case. For example, capital punishment may be entirely acceptable in-principle, and yet we may wish to restrict it in practice. Communism may be acceptable in-principle, and may even work in small communities, and yet it is not acceptable in-practice. So no, anything acceptable in principle does not mean that in practice is sure to follow.

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      • Jamie,

        Sadly, no they don’t. For example, science is supposed to be an outstanding tool for finding what is rational to believe, because, in-principle, experiments are reproducible and are reproduced. In-practice, so few experiments are reproduced that there is a great deal of questionable science out there masquerading as good science. And this is but one example amongst many.

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      • Isn’t there a certain point where ten times out of ten, the water boils at a certain temperature and now that it’s “down to a science” that it doesn’t need to be reproduced? Just because we aren’t doing the same experiments a hundred times over it doesn’t mean that there’s bad science going on.

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